EPIPHANY!

Sep. 9th, 2012 11:20 pm
karenhealey: Rainbow Dash overcome with excitement (My Little Pony) (Default)
[personal profile] karenhealey
INTERNETS

INTERNETS QUICK

LITERATURE IS IN DANGER

HERE TO SAVE IT IS MAN BOOKER WINNER HOWARD JACOBSON

SIT AT HIS FEET AND LEARN HIS WISDOMS

I wouldn't have written it if I didn't think there was something worrying about, not so much publishing, but the state of the book… some of the things that I play with, some of the jokes I make, attack things that need to be attacked.


GASP! SAY ON OH SAGE.

I was sitting in the American Embassy a while back, trying to get a visa, and every woman in the room was reading the vampire series – you know, the one with the black cover and the bit of blood. Now people are reading soft porn! What happened to the fun of reading a good book? There are people who, when they say they prefer Henry James to Fifty Shades of Grey, they do actually mean that.


WILL NO ONE PRESERVE THE LITERARY REPUTATIONS OF THE DEAD WHITE MALES FROM THE VAMPIRE-LOVING WOMEN?

I hate the phrase "literary fiction". I write fiction. The others write crap.


MY EYES ARE OPENED

I like a proper shirt with a collar. There's nothing else that I think I look nice in. I don't think there's anything else that other men look nice in, to be honest. Things with words on! Can you imagine? On grown-ups! Words are to make books with.


~FIN~

Date: 2012-09-09 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
"Words are to make books with"

What does that MEAN? Aside from the suspect grammar, does that mean we're not allowed to use words to, y'know, communicate? Or maybe sing a song?

Date: 2012-09-09 11:30 am (UTC)
lizbee: (Avatar: Mai)
From: [personal profile] lizbee
No one tell him that people go out and read books written with children in mind! And then some of them pick up Henry James! And then maybe a bit of E L James, followed by some D H Lawrence, then maybe a reread of the Harry Potters! He might explode with shock!

Date: 2012-09-10 03:49 am (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
This pretty much describes my reading this week. Except substitute Jane Austen for Henry James.

Date: 2012-09-09 11:44 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: 12 Apostles rocks, text "Rock On" (12 Apostles)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
I wonder if it's okay to read soft porn if everyone wears a shirt with a collar while reading it?

Date: 2012-09-09 02:59 pm (UTC)
cathexys: T.S. Eliot: affective fallacy the emotion of art is impersonal (eliot) (eliot)
From: [personal profile] cathexys
All the better to take it off though :D

Srsly, like there's nothing between E.L. and Henry...like we don't contain multitudes....like you only ever read FOR ONE THING!

(only my ironic eliot icon will do for this dude)

Date: 2012-09-09 08:31 pm (UTC)
lemon_badgeress: basket of lemons, with one cut lemon being decorative (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemon_badgeress
Indeed! It is the fallacy of the excluded middle!

HEY BOOKER DUDE, I LEARNED THAT ONE FROM HARRY POTTER FANFIC. Here's your smelling salts.

Date: 2012-09-10 05:31 am (UTC)
ecaterin: Miles's face from Warrior's Apprentice. Text: We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement. (Default)
From: [personal profile] ecaterin
*dies laughing*

Date: 2012-09-09 03:14 pm (UTC)
ironed_orchid: watercolour and pen style sketch of a brown tabby cat curl up with her head looking up at the viewer and her front paw stretched out on the left (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid
That's how I like to read Sherlock fic.

Date: 2012-09-09 01:32 pm (UTC)
minoanmiss: Minoan women talking amongst themselves (Ladies Chatting)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
Well He told US all right.
colorblue: (Default)
From: [personal profile] colorblue
Interviews like this make me sad I couldn't get into Twilight or Fifty Shades.

Also, just when I thought he couldn't get more laughably pretentious, I read this part -- One of my agents once said I was one of the most dangerous men in London and I was so excited by that. -- and, wow, on a list of stupid things said and done by privileged white dudes* who find it radically subversive to get on their soapboxes haranguing others** about true literature and how they're doing it*** wrong, that ranks pretty high.

* who could really use a makeover; perhaps his agent meant that he was one of the most dangerous men in London in the sense that, his hair and beard were scarring**** to those with aesthetic sensibilities?
** for others read: dumb, uneducated, ignorant as fuck broads, or alternately, anyone who isn't, say, him or Henry James
*** for it read: EVERYTHING
**** I had a brain fart and it took me FOREVER to remember that this was the word I wanted
Edited Date: 2012-09-09 03:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-09 04:14 pm (UTC)
trouble: Sketch of Hermoine from Harry Potter with "Bookworms will rule the world (after we finish the background reading)" on it (Default)
From: [personal profile] trouble
Between this and learning from a dude on FB today that the problem with sexism in the atheist/skeptic movement is caused by women talking about it, I know I'm sold. I have been suitably humbled.

Date: 2012-09-09 04:29 pm (UTC)
meloukhia: An angry seagull, mouth open to squawk indignantly (Angry Gull)
From: [personal profile] meloukhia
Angry Gull is so glad this man has come to save the wide world of literature! He would like to know where he can subscribe to Mr. Jacobson's newsletter.

Date: 2012-09-09 04:45 pm (UTC)
holyschist: Image of a medieval crocodile from Herodotus, eating a person, with the caption "om nom nom" (Default)
From: [personal profile] holyschist
I like a proper shirt with a collar. There's nothing else that I think I look nice in. I don't think there's anything else that other men look nice in, to be honest.

I think many men also look nice in

a) tight t-shirts (especially if decorated with nerdy sayings and/or dinosaurs)
b) no shirt
c) turtlenecks (do those count as having collars, or is that only button-downs?)
d) medieval clothing (tunics and cotehardies don't have collars)
e) Elizabethan (which does have collars)
f) kimonos (he does realize the traditional male dress of many countries doesn't have the kind of collar he's talking about, right?)
g) kilts
h) drag

It must be a daily struggle to take himself seriously. I salute his ongoing effort to do so in order to ~save literature~ and the endangered button-down shirt.

Date: 2012-09-09 06:11 pm (UTC)
birke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] birke
Word!

... Oh crap. Did I misuse a word? Sorry, Mr Jacobson!

Date: 2012-09-09 06:21 pm (UTC)
holyschist: Image of a medieval crocodile from Herodotus, eating a person, with the caption "om nom nom" (Default)
From: [personal profile] holyschist
Don't worry, we can compile all the blog comments into a book and then it'll be legitimate use of the language!

Date: 2012-09-09 05:22 pm (UTC)
recessional: "Okay, so ten out of ten for style, but minus several million for good thinking." (personal; even zaphod knows ur dumb)
From: [personal profile] recessional
I cannot even take these people seriously anymore. Like, I can't even laugh. I just want to stare at them in the hopes that sooner or later they'll realize the grownups were talking here, and go away to play with their toys.

Date: 2012-09-09 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] puzzlement
It's good to know literature has a new champion. It's been terrible to think of poor Jonathan Franzen out there all alone battling the chick lit* beast, unheralded and unsung.

* I feel sure that my derogatory terms for women's writing is a generation out of date here. So hard to keep up with the manpain.

Date: 2012-09-09 08:58 pm (UTC)
princess: (mansplain)
From: [personal profile] princess
Jonathan Franzen is also busily battling the evil forces of "genre fic" because it has become polluted by those cootie bearing girls. I mean, when sci-fi was the sole domain of frustrated men who would never be astronauts by virtue of the fact that they wear glasses, it was almost okay, but now *anyone* can write a book and call it "fantasy".

Date: 2012-09-09 06:28 pm (UTC)
ecaterin: Miles's face from Warrior's Apprentice. Text: We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement. (Default)
From: [personal profile] ecaterin
This ENTIRE THREAD gives me unmitigated joy!!!!

...but I must now return to editing my PR0N. I accept my diminished role with a bowed head....and hotsex.

Date: 2012-09-09 08:51 pm (UTC)
revena: Elizabeth Bennet reading a book with an arrow labeling it "smut" (Elizabeth Bennet - Smut)
From: [personal profile] revena
I prefer Henry James to Fifty Shades of Grey! And then I prefer about 75% of all other erotic romance to Henry James. Sincerely.

Date: 2012-09-09 10:32 pm (UTC)
revena: Surprised Batman; text reads: OMG WTF (Batman WTF)
From: [personal profile] revena
Also, "You do not, when you read a novel, identify with a character. Lear was a horrible father. Othello was not a man you want to be married to."

...These are also not characters in novels.

Date: 2012-09-10 04:19 am (UTC)
revena: Drawing of me (Default)
From: [personal profile] revena
It takes a really special kind of self-importance to compare yourself to Shakespeare whilst simultaneously forgetting that he wasn't a novelist.

Date: 2012-09-11 02:51 am (UTC)
brownbetty: (Default)
From: [personal profile] brownbetty
Of course Shakespeare was a novelist: Franzen is a Serious Writer and a novelist, Shakespeare is a Serious Writer, QED, Shakespeare is a novelist.

Date: 2012-09-10 12:54 am (UTC)
arionhunter: (疲子英雄 - Stare)
From: [personal profile] arionhunter
I guess instead of pearls, he'll be clutching his seven-fold Downing striped tie? I feel the need to express mail him some smelling salts, in case he ever encounter SBTB.

(Fun Fact/Catty Aside: For someone who likes to go on about how men should wear collared shirts, Jacobson apparently can't find one that fits properly for his photographs.)

No, no...

Date: 2012-09-10 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
Men don't cringingly clutch things when the forces of reality bear down heavily upon them. Instead, we adopt a suitably grim but sternly resolute expression and adjust the grip on our pipes.

Date: 2012-09-10 01:07 am (UTC)
yatima: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yatima
See this is why I can't read many books by men. Their interests are so narrow and male-focused. Rare indeed is the man who can write a crossover book that appeals to regular people.

Date: 2012-09-13 05:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] metaphortunate
***love***

Date: 2012-09-10 02:25 am (UTC)
lady_ganesh: A Clue card featuring Miss Scarlett. (mmm what?)
From: [personal profile] lady_ganesh
Mr. Jacobson must not get out much. No one tell him about Henry Miller, eh?

Date: 2012-09-10 03:53 am (UTC)
cadenzamuse: Cross-legged girl literally drawing the world around her into being (Hardison)
From: [personal profile] cadenzamuse
...I can't even. It is a Jewish voice. And because this isn't America, it took longer to accept. In America, post-Scott Fitzgerald, they're all Jewish or aspiring to be. WHAT THE BACKFLIPPING FUCK?

Date: 2012-09-10 07:11 am (UTC)
kateelliott: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kateelliott
I don't think there's anything else that other men look nice in, to be honest.

If only I knew how to post photos in comments!

Date: 2012-09-10 02:16 pm (UTC)
mystic_rhythms: (ninja shirt)
From: [personal profile] mystic_rhythms
Quick HTML lesson: <img src="url of the photo you wish to post"> will post whatever image you like. Just make sure it's a photo you yourself are hosting (e.g., on Photobucket)-- a lot of sites don't like it when you post their hosted images elsewhere using their resources. (By "don't like it" I mean instead of the image you meant to post, goatse or tubgirl will show up instead.) There's a way to stick hovertext in there, too, if you're interested. :)

Also, who the everliving fuck thought it was a good idea to let Captain Pretentious to speak where other people could hear him? Apparently he thinks the "Man" in "Man Booker" refers to men. It, uhh, does not.

Date: 2012-09-10 05:35 pm (UTC)
smurasaki: blond person looking up with question marks over head (why)
From: [personal profile] smurasaki
He's practically a parody of the pretentious snot novelist. Who knew someone could be both real and an obnoxious stereotype? I'm amazed!

Shakespeare the novelist. Pffft!
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